For this reason, I've always looked a little askance at people who say things like a punch is a punch - well yes it is, but how we get there can be quite different based on the system studied. There are many other examples of varying standards, even within the same nominal thing, like zenkutsu dachi or front stance. Shotokan on the other hand likes to set up a comparatively extreme hip action on almost every technique, something out of place in Goju-ryu kata. Okinawan Goju-ryu for example has a certain pelvic tilt that is very characteristic, yet is not usually found in Shotokan training. Kata of one karate style can be aesthetically unappealing to adherents of another. I would not have known that if you hadn't told me and that gives me more incentive to go check it out. TMAs today largely want to be the martial arts that "anyone can do" and are "fun for the whole family" and that's their focus instead of developing proficient fighters. I certainly don't want to get into a TMA vs MT discussion here, but I've heard plenty of former TKD or Karate guys who spent several years in the style before switching over to Muay Thai say that they learned more about actual fighting in MT in 3 months than they learned in 3 years in their previous classes. only that, in my opinion, the ones who can train a manner that gives them the tools to deal with scenarios they're likely to encounter beyond the dojo. As I mentioned, that's not to say that no TMA guys can handle themselves.
For instance, a TKD guy might be able to throw really nice kicks and score points during sparring, but when a Tank Abbot kind of dude comes windmilling at him he gets overwhelmed by aggression and haymakers.
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Regarding my comment on TMA guys not really knowing how to fight, in my experience at least it has largely had to do with the fact that they don't spend much time actually doing contact sparring and they also are not prepared for someone coming at them with a totally different style. In the competitive aspect, I've noticed that while the Wado Ryu folks generally don't score too well in Kata competition, they show very well in the Kumite aspect. It all depends on who is teaching, and what their backgrounds are. I've seen some Shotokan schools teach a significant amount of the "softer" techniques, and have also seen quite a few Wado schools incorporate a good bit of the "harder" techniques favored by Shotokan. Of course, this is a very gross generalization. If you favor hard striking, then Shotokan may be the better choice, while if you favor softer techniques that incorporate more throws / locks, then Wado Ryu may be the better choice. In a nutshell, Wado Ryu incorporates more "soft" techniques than Shotokan does, and also tends to use more upright stances, as opposed to the deeper stances favored by Shotokan.īoth are excellent combative arts. Ohtsuka Shihan already had an extensive background in Shinto Yoshin Ryu Ju Jutsu, and formed the Wado Ryu system from his knowledge of both the Ju Jutsu and the Shotokan Karate. Shotokan Karate and Wado Ryu are related systems, in that Wado Ryu was derived from Shotokan Karate, by Hironori Ohtsuka. Having trained in both Shotokan and Wado, I may be able to offer a bit of insight here. I've read a few threads I've found through the search and have done a bit of looking around online, but I figured I would get some tailored opinions from you guys.īasically, how does both Shotokan AND Wado compare to TKD? And how do Shotokan and Wado compare to each other? What are the benefits of each? And which style, in your opinion, make for a better combative art? The problem is that I have very little knowledge of Wado-Ryu. There is, however, a Wado-Ryu school that I have been looking into and will probably go check out within the next week or so. I've also considered Shotokan, but have been having a hard time finding a good Shotokan school as well. I'm considering getting back into TKD, but I've been having a hard time finding a good school in the area (Salt Lake City, UT). I am, of course, familiar with other martial arts, but only nominally and only as a spectator. I am looking to get back into martial arts after a multi-year layoff and need a bit of info.įirst off, my background is in TKD and Judo (as well as a tiny bit of Wushu).
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